How to start a Mom School?

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Hello Everyone!

I have learned so much from all of your forum posts and thank you to everyone for sharing all of this valuable information.

I am curious on how to start a Mom school - I live in Gilbert, AZ and have two daughters, 3.5 and 2yrs who both were enrolled in a Montessori school until recently. I would love to connect with other like-minded families in the area and curious on how to pursue this.

Any suggestions/information are greatly appreciated. :) Thank you!

Laura

Mentoring Mothers

I agree the book discussion thing for adults works really well. At this stage it's important to focus on the principle "You, not Them." You need to be immersed in the principles so you can pass them on to your children.

I just recently started group for mothers who all want or are striving to implement the TJEd principles in their homes. It's called Mentoring Mothers. We just get together once a month to discuss the TJEd principles and such. Last year our "theme" was the 7 (now 8) Principles of TJEd and each month we would discuss in depth each one. It was great and all the ladies are asking for it again this year. Our theme this year will be "YOUr Journey Through the Phases." We'll have some very simple, brief reading to go along with each meeting, but for the most part it's straight from the TJEd books and personal experiences. Last year we did this during the day and hired a couple of homeschooling youth to babysit in another room. This year we are going to still do it during the day but will eliminate the babysitting and each find alternative spots for their little ones. We have age ranges from baby to 12, many of the families now have babysitting-age children to tend their younger siblings. This type of group could easily fit into an evening setting as well . . . Desserts and Discussion maybe?!? :-)

Anyway, I think the best way to find like-minded people isn't necessarily through children's groups, but groups for ourselves. Good luck and have fun!!

can I join?

I live in Lindon, Utah. Is there a group of homeschool moms that I can join that teaches the TJEd principles around here?
I am doing all of this out of scratch by myself.
I need a little help.
thank you
Kinga

Thank you for sharing!

Wow - I had not realized I had any replies until a kind mom sent me an email to let me know! Thank you soo much everyone for all of your suggestions/support. :)

mom schools/ likeminded families

This is my first post on this forum, but Laura I have great news: I'm also in Gilbert, I have a 3.5 year old, an almost 2 year old and a 6 month old. :) I've been looking at preschools the last year or so but haven't been too thrilled with what I've found. Now I'm looking into starting (or joining, if I can find one) a Joy School group. Would you be interested? I would LOVE to find more families that have similar beliefs about education that my husband and I have.

Thought some more

I've thought about this some more. One thing I did that has helped me find adults who take learning seriously is having a book discussion in my home. I decided on a theme, chose dates (once a month for one school year), decided to hold them in my home, chose books that fit the theme that I wanted to read, made flyers and hung them up in businesses around town, let my friends and relatives know, told people at church about it. Several people were interested in reading, but wanted to help choose books; no, I own this discussion, so I set the books. Some people were interested but wanted to read contemporary novels and bestsellers. I wanted classics, so I chose classics. I committed to read these books, even if no one else read them; I committed to these dates even if no one else came.

Turned out that only two other adults were serious enough to read the books and come to my home to discuss. We got a lot of good out of these discussions, partly because we were such a small group that each of us had the time we needed to ask and tell our thoughts. The discussions were very useful in my life. A couple times we had to reschedule because my children were ill or because someone who really wanted to discuss couldn't come. But I made sure I was committed to making it happen.

In later years I've moved to once a week discussions including teens and adults in my home. This most recent semester I had two discussions running concurrently; that was too much. Next year the routine will alter again; I'll be taking an online class and won't have as much time for discussions.

I've gained good friends and lots of insight from discussions. I discovered, however, that it's like smiling: most people will smile at you, but someone has to smile first. If I want a discussion, I have to make it happen. If I'm lucky enough to find a discussion that helps me, that belongs to someone else, I need to support that person's efforts. It's a lot of work to take ownership of my education, but it's vitally necessary.

I get the impression

I get the impression that it's bothering you that your children aren't "in school" or "doing schooly stuff" or just "not doing Enough schooly stuff" at home. I also wonder if you're feeling like you've let your children down by taking them out of Montessori school, since the "in thing" with American society is to put small children in the care of professionals rather than in the care of Mom. After all, they've been trained in what to do, and Mom, in most cases, has not.

On the other hand you may just be lonely for other people who think like you, in which case it's easy: set up the activities you want to do with your children and invite other moms and children to join you. Small groups work best for the age your children are, the smaller the group the better. And you may have noticed that 3yo and 2yo don't like to do highly structured activities for more than a minute or two at a time. Park days are your friends. So are days when you just gather at your home and talk while your children play around you.

If you're going to do something messy, like painting, you're probably better off doing it either alone with your children so you can keep a close eye on them, or doing it with an older mom whose children are able to safely paint without help; in which case the older children will be good (or bad) examples for your children (depending on the older children's attitudes) and there will be accidents where an older child has a painting damaged or clothes painted by a younger child. The older mom will hopefully help you out, but may not be enthusiastic about doing something messy with small children.

Older moms are supposed to be mentors to younger moms, but they generally haven't been taught to do so and frequently take the attitude that their children are older, thank goodness, so why bother with little ones? If you find an older mom who welcomes you and your children into her life, welcome her! (Assuming of course that she isn't encouraging snotty behavior in her--and in your--children.)

So! What would your children be learning in the care of professionals? How to wait in line... which you can do better and in a more interesting environment at the grocery store. That they're not the center of the universe (how to be less selfish)... which you can do better at home because you can assure them that they're still loved while not letting them club each other. Montessori has centers for learning, I think, which you can easily duplicate at home just by teaching your children how to use things safely. It means that you get to do things with your children, deliberately including them in your activities.

The biggest drawback in teaching children at home is No Custodial Staff. No one will clean up messes for you; no kindly older gentleman with a mop will show up when you call. This is, however, a tremendous blessing. Your children will not have a personal slave to clean up after them (unless you take the job). You have a golden opportunity to teach them to take care of their own things and keep their own bodies clean. These are major Core lessons. People who have been trained to care for their own homes take better care of the earth when they get older.

You are supremely qualified for this job because you are devoted to your subjects. They will pick up on your attitudes. Parenthood is not just to teach children. It is also to teach you, through figuring out how to help them. Do spend time with other parents, but remember your children want you, not other adults, at this point in their lives. Take a night off once a month without children, with other moms, and just talk. It will restore your perspective to hear and be heard. Also take time to have a date with your husband frequently, once a week if possible. Get a babysitter or if there are no volunteers, put children in bed and spend some time together late at night. A strong marriage is a core value, learned by observing how marriages are strengthened. A better relationship with your husband will lead directly to improvements in your children (may not look like it at first, but unity in love always helps).

can I join?

I would like to join a home school mom's group already created by experienced parents.
And parents just like me trying to figure this out on their own.
Is there something like that in Orem, Lindon, PG, Utah?
let me know
thanks
Kinga

The marriage part...

HFWM-

The marriage comment at the end of your post here is so very true. Having lived through a horrid seperation and by God's grace being given the opportunity to reconcile our marriage; we have learned that you can't take each other for granted. That leads to jealousy, hatred, unholy thoughts towards them and of others, etc...

One of the best, if not the BEST lesson we can teach our children is how to have a biblical marriage. While we must put God first, God does want us to put our spouse next even ahead of our children. No, he doesn't want us to neglect our kids but make certain our marriage is loving and tended to so that we as parents may then love and tend to the children. All the while our children seeing and observing and learning what marriage is to be like. We by design, human kind, are made in God's image and he made us to be paired with one another for companionship and love.

Just my 2 cents!

real prophetess

To the-- I get the impression lady!

Can I just say how I absolutely loved your response!
How very personal and noble and brave and loving was your answer!
You are a prophetess filled with revelation!
You are changing the world and because you are filled with the spirit of revelation you are following the message from our 12 apostles from last conference on "Mother teaching in the home" perfectly. So many of us feel to do the same thing. It is a privilege to be among you!

I am a convert and have been persecuted for years for my "strange" schooling decisions by my gentile family members. Thanks you for being on the Lord's side of things!

Kinga

Thank you

Thank you for your kind reply. I'm trying to do what I'm supposed to do; not perfect yet by any means. I'm glad this helps you.

thankd you

You are welcome. I hope the lady that posted benefited from your response like I did.
Even though I didn't even ask the question I just loved your response to her.

And I have never met a "perfect prophet/prophetess".
We are all learning together.
love
Kinga

I second that and have plenty

Kinga-

I agree and second your words on HFWM. She has been a real blessing to me since joining this group several months ago. Just to get her opinions and advice, wow, what a point they make and in such an amazing way.

classy lady

I think she must be one of them "classic" ladies, who reads classics and scriptures often.
Good books are a real treasure. They do help you become someone very special.

It is very hard for me to have the time to read any classics.
With all the other reading that I have to do like:
scriptures, church manuals old and new, current Ensign, conference Ensign, and then read the book of Mormon, Preach my Gospel, New Era and Friend with the kids- where do you find the time for classics?

Kinga

Aren't those classics?

Aren't those classics? Core classics for you?

If you have to choose between core classics and world recognized cultural classics, do the Core classics first and foremost.

I'm currently reading Preach My Gospel, because our stake president (regional church leader) challenged everyone in the stake to read it in the six months between stake conferences. I was feeling guilty because I couldn't read the Book of Mormon as my daily personal scripture study and read PMG too. So I prayed about it and felt that reading Preach My Gospel is temporarily a higher priority for my own study. I'm still reading the Book of Mormon with my husband and the Book of Mormon illustrated reader with my little children. When homeschool officially starts on August 30th, we will begin again reading the Book of Mormon with our older children every morning before my dh leaves for work.

You're right that it's a challenge to keep up with reading for church. What I have sometimes done is read one lesson per day: Sunday School reading on Monday, Relief Society lesson on Tuesday, keep the Ensign, New Era, and Friend in the bathroom and read when I'm taking a break from children. I've had to let old manuals go; there just isn't time to review them unless I need material to give a talk. My children who can read can read the New Era and Friend themselves; the illustrated scripture readers I try to include in bedtime stories in the summer and during homeschool devotional in the winter.

My personal core classic study is during and after breakfast, to ensure A) that I sit long enough to eat a full meal and B) that I read it every day in front of my children. The main things are: read something in your core classic daily, and let your children know how you feel about it. Other classics, while classic, are not as important.

Don't feel guilty for not being able to do everything. There are hundreds of thousands of good things you could do. A big part of living is choosing which things to make top priority--not only to say they're top priority, but actually do them first and always.

I just realized

Actually I just realized that you called core classics my religious reading.
Sorry for misunderstanding you.
I have so much opposition in my life sometimes I expect it even from Church members.
I need to find a group I can join that can support my beliefs and home school mom support and suggestions and help.
Is there a place for me in the Lindon, Orem, Pleasant Grove area?
thanks
Kinga

Try here too

Try here:

http://donnasjourney.moorhouseacademy.org/?cat=13

This person, Donna Goff, has in the past posted here, and is in Orem. She has a couple different sites and would be able to connect you to others as well. I admire her wisdom; she has helped me and others tremendously as we are trying to improve ourselves and our families. She is definitely in Societal Impact Phase. :D

important question

I agree. But I just can't get myself to read a classic. If I have spare time it is for reading the scriptures, Ensign, conference talks and Church related materials.
When I pick up a classic and try to read one I feel such a huge lack of spirituality in that book I go back to reading my scriptures instead.
I read to "eat" feed my soul, not to waste time.

I am a convert to the Church and with as much opposition to my beliefs in my family as I have- I simply cannot afford to read for entertainment. I read to be close to God and feel of His love and support in my life. I cannot live without Him. How can I pick up something lesser when I have something greater in front of me?!!!
This is survival for me to 100% turn to the Lord. Maybe it isn't for you if you were born a member.
I wasn't. I am the only leader in my entire family.

I love the gospel so much I feel bad about teaching my children from any other book then the Friend, Enzign, New Era, Scriptures, Preach My Gospel, Young women's personal progress and so on. Although my kids read all kinds of fun books as well, but when I teach I feel to teach spiritual things only. These have been my promptings.

Where do I fit in?
Is there a group for me that I can join to get support?
Kinga

Follow your inspiration

Kinga, if you feel inspired to give your children more and more exposure to your core classic, do it! Don't feel guilty for not getting other classics in. There will come a time when you and they are stronger than you now are. There will come a time when you have more support than you now feel from others. There is hope!

I'm going to the TJED MUSE Yahoo group, which has a lot of posts every day and gets into TJED basics and deeper conversation. It's not a religious group, though religion gets discussed in a dispassionate way, as it bears on how to teach ourselves and our families.

There are other places: ldfr.com has a homeschooling board that is active and inactive by turns; it also has a general discussion board that is so active I do not even try to keep up with it. The people there are overwhelmingly LDS. You may find support there. On the other hand, you may find that reading other people's challenges gets to be too much (sometimes there are lots of emotional posts on the general board).

TJED in the Midwest is another Yahoo group, much less active than either of those. It's not religious.

I mention these groups because they will help you contact other people who may live near you. I know there are a lot of TJEDers in Utah, I just don't live near any of them and so I don't keep track. Pray for the people you need to meet, and be open to the inspiration. It will happen!

thank you

Thank you very, very much for the information!
I'm also very happy that my 10 year old boy has started reading classics on his own, without me even asking him to. We just talked about it - my husband and I and he got interested.
I have a collection of some of the classics in my home, but I have no time to read them, but my kids do. And they are picking up on them too.
We discuss the scriptures, the friend and the New era and the Enzign and Preach my Gospel for now and the young women's manual.
I hope someday we will get into the classics.

Kinga